My Best Interviewing Tip
In Silicon Valley we are in a talent war. With so much technology available via open source or cloud services, you can start up quickly but just as quickly flounder against competitors. Great companies all have one thing in common: they have great people. Great people who can work together, innovate and managers who can bring out the best in their teams.
In my position as CMO and a founding executive team member of the Linux Foundation, we experienced rapid growth over many years. I spent a great deal of time and attention on hiring and motivating employees to do their best. I may be biased but I think we managed to create a world class and thriving team.
One of the highest value activities in this area was training others on interviewing. My best advice? Focus on behavior. In jobs related to product management, business development, sales, marketing or communications, you have people who are verbally skilled. Ask them anything and you will likely get a good verbal response, but that doesn't mean it's true. Focusing on behavior — how they follow up, how and when they respond to your emails and questions, how they treat you vs others on the team for instance — yields more accurate data of how they will be on a daily basis. For instance, I would sometimes purposefully argue with a candidate to see how they respond to being challenged.
The CEO of Schwab has a similar approach. In this San Francisco Chronicle article he explains that he has the restaurant purposefully mess up applicants' orders so he can see how they behave. In his words:
"I do that because I want to see how the person responds. That will help me understand how they deal with adversity. Are they upset, are they frustrated or are they understanding? Life is like that, and business is like that. It's just another way to get a look inside their heart rather than their head.
"We're all going to make mistakes. The question is how are we going to recover when we make them, and are we going to be respectful to others when they make them?"
Of course the applicant may be on their best behavior, but it's much harder to hide the truth in a situation that is challenging. Our actions speak louder than words but all too often we focus on words in interviews, ignoring how the applicant didn't ask us anything about the company or our lives, or blared on and on without concern for time. In a talent war, having the best talent who works well together is worth extra vigilance on behavior — even if it's staged — during the interview process.
Co-founder and CEO building the machine learning cloud platform Artificial Wisdom™.
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Dave, What you describe is called behavioral interviewing and is standard beset practice by experienced interviewers.
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Great advice! As a follow-up to this, targeted selection takes this principle further: to judge future behaviour in response to a situation, ask people when they faced that situation in the past. Then dig deep for details - what did they do, how did they interact with others, how effective was the outcome of the situation? As an example: if you want to know how someone reacts under pressure, ask about a time that they were working on a project that ran late. Ask them to describe the moment when they realised that they were not going to make the release date on time, on quality, as planned. Then ask how they reacted - did they reduce scope, fight for a schedule extension, add people, get everyone working weekends? Was there a post mortem after the project shipped? Who took the lead on that? How were the lessons applied in the next project? The great thing about this line of questioning is that it is not accessing the hypothetical side of the brain - you are not getting the idealised "I would..." answer where infinite time and resources, and everyone's buy-in can be assumed. You are accessing memory banks, and the more details you get, the closer you get to the truth of how the person reacts. I found a really nice overview of the technique on Progressive's website: https://www.progressive.com/jobs/interview-faqs/ - a former Red Hatter taught me this method many years ago, and it has stood me in good stead since.