"What Did You Earn At Your Last Job?"
As soon as the topic of compensation comes up on a job search, you're likely to get the question "What were you earning at your last job?"
You have to be ready for it.
If you don't have an answer ready at your lips, you're likely to say "Oh, I was earning $X."
That's the worst thing you can do.
It's important to understand that the traditional job-interview process is a ritual. It's a script. If you fall into the standard script, you'll have a hard time climbing out of it.
Your personal financial information is your own business. It's no one else's business. There is never any reason to share your past earnings with people you don't know. Do you know why employers ask "What were you earning at your last job?" There are two reasons:
1) If you were earning a lot more at your last job than these new guys are willing to pay you, they're likely to say "This is not a good fit." That's not bad - it's good. Unless you're willing to take a big pay cut for some reason, you want them to tell you if it's not a good fit, rather than wasting your time. Still, they don't need your past salary information to make that decision. They only need to know what you're looking to earn in your next job.
2) If you were earning a salary that is in the range for the position you are pursuing now, they'll use your past salary level to determine your job offer. By a very strange coincidence, once you share your past compensation level, they always seem to offer you a very small amount over it.
If you were earning $45,000 at your last job, your job offer is likely to come in at $45,500.
If your target salary on your new job is $48,000, that's the number for you to share.
Employers don't want to spend money. I don't blame them. I don't want to spend money either. I tried buying groceries in bulk at a warehouse store to save money, but it was a dismal failure.
I live in a house with three massive hulking teenage boys, one little boy and my husband (our daughter is away at college). I filled up the car with food at the warehouse store, and my sons ate it all in one day. Now I shop in smaller quantities.
Let's get back to you. There is no reason on earth to share your past earnings. It's very impolite to ask "What did you earn at your last job?" but we don't hear the impoliteness in the question, because we've been taught that an employer has the right to ask it.
We think it's normal. We think it's normal for interviewers to ask "What's your greatest weakness?"
What are you, my therapist? Are you my spiritual advisor? What the hell is going on here? Is this a job interview, or a counseling session?
If you went on a date and someone asked you "What's your greatest weakness?" you'd leave. It's very rude to ask a person "What's your greatest weakness?" It's rude to ask "What were you earning at your last job?"
We've been brainwashed. We think that employers are little gods and we are nothing when we're job-hunting. Some headhunters will tell you that they MUST have your past salary information. Leave them in the dust and find a recruiter who has your best interests in mind.
You have to start a job search by shaking the toxic lemonade out of your veins. If you have a script of your own to follow, you'll be prepared with a ready answer when the obnoxious question "What were you earning at your last job?" comes up.
INTERVIEWER: So, what were you earning at your last job?
YOU: Great, let's talk about salary. I'm focusing on jobs in the $45K range in this job search.
INTERVIEWER: But what were you earning at your last job?
YOU: You know, if that $45K figure is in the range for this position, it makes sense for us to keep talking. If not, then it might not be a good fit. I wouldn't want to waste your time.
Interviewers aren't trying to be rude. They've just drunk a lot of toxic lemonade themselves. They'll say "We need your past salary information."
Really? You need it? I understand that people in Hell need ice water, my darling.
They don't need to know your past salaries. They just want it. As we tell our kids, Want and Need are two different things.
Tell them your salary requirement, instead. That's all they need to make a Yes or No decision about whether your salary requirements and their salary range are in the same ballpark.
But Liz, what if my salary in my last job was exactly fair for the work I did. Why not share it?
You can share whatever you like. You can tell them your salary.
You can show them your bank account statements to prove that you're good at saving money. You can tell them when you and your sweetheart last had some alone time together and exactly who did what to whom and in what sequence You can tell them whatever you want.
My job as your career advisor and Mojo Coach is to remind you that you don't have to grovel and give up personal information just to get a job.
Your polite and professional redirection of the question "What was your last salary?" is a litmus test. If they say "Oh, okay, so your range is $45K, that's good. That should be in our range, too" then the conversation continues. You will have learned one important thing.
You'll know that you're dealing with humans rather than zombies. That's important. If you get the job, you want to know that you can be human at work yourself.
If they say "I must have your past salary, or this conversation is over" you've learned something vital. Do you really want to work with pod people and robots who don't respect boundaries?
The world is changing. The Human Workplace is already here. Sharp employers know that their talented employees are the only thing that powers their organizations. They are learning to bend and flex, even if their processes were stiff and formal in the past.
Organizations who haven't gotten the memo will pretend that the Godzilla world of fear and control is the only working world there is. Their companies will go out of business, and that's an evolution just as predictable and natural as the evolution of amino acids to single-celled organisms and then on to you and me.
Only the people who get you, deserve you.
Practice our script above until you can redirect the question "What were you earning before?" easily and smoothly, with a smile on your lips. If answering a disgusting and intrusive interview question in a non-standard way makes you feel like an outlaw, rejoice!
Read the story "How to Report Your Past Salaries in an Online Job Application" here!
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What is your desired salary? The unwritten rule when it comes to salary is this: whoever proposes a number first loses. When you interview, you should never feel pressured to answer this question. Simply let your interviewer know that the most important thing to you is how well you fit the position and <a title="Are You Willing To Pay For What You Want?" href="http://stephenmizell.com/are-you-willing-to-pay-for-what-you-want/">Are You Willing To Pay For What You Want?</a>
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7yIt is so interesting to see the contrast between the answers from job-seekers and the answers from recruiters: Recruiters: "We always need to know what you're currently making and looking to make so we can help you find a job in the best way." Job Seekers: "That information is irrelevant to the future position I'm looking for and I'm not sure why I should continue working with you if that is the way you want to address compensation." I have followed Liz Ryan for over 2 years and I take her advice to heart. I tested the theory presented here about how companies compensate you and it's true. If you tell them what you're currently making, they will only offer you a small increase over what you're making and try to sell that as a "better opportunity". No way, José. I know my worth, I know my value and I regularly evaluate what I think I'm worth compared to what the market says. I'm usually right within the ballpark of my compensation estimate. Whenever I receive random contact about a job opportunity (I get lots of these in my e-mail Inbox), I always ask the question "What is the salary target for this position"? This is advice pulled straight from Liz Ryan herself, and it has helped me avoid wasting time with opportunities I'd never be interested in because of the compensation level. If a company presses me really hard about the salary question, refuses to tell me what the position is worth and refuses to continue the conversation without knowing that, I give them the range I'm looking for if I'm still interested in talking to them. Again, with Liz's advice, I have been able to get several interviews going with companies without feeling like I'm shooting myself in the foot. You are truly more powerful than you think, and the more you believe in your power, the more others will believe in you.
HR Business Partner
8yOne, and probably the main reason, this has become a staple question on the interview/application process is they are trying to get you to state a number first. Research studies show that in all forms of negotiations, even salary ones, that the party that states a number first usually loses the negotiation. You see the practice in sales all the time as well. Watch an episode of Pickers or those pawn shows. The owners of those businesses always say "make me an offer", "How much do you want for it."
Training and Development leader focused on providing leadership and professional development opportunities to make awesome people even better.
8yThank you Liz! I love your energy, perspective and style! I appreciate your down-to-earth approach and you seem like someone I'd love to hang out with. This salary question, as well as the issue of how to address it in online application forms had stumped me for a while. I actually have a reverse problem. I was recently laid off after 21 years at the Director level. Corporate department head 25+ Years experience Over 55 Pretty slim pickins' to find a commensurate level opportunity. I know that most organizations these days have succession plans in place and only recruit internally for their Sr. leader positions. (or they post both internally and externally but have already identified an internal candidate) So, I apply to lower level positions since that is all I can find. I hate to say how much I earned at my last position since I know that will automatically "price me out of the running". On one hand, I don't want to "lie" about what I made, but on the other hand, it really is irrelevant to the job I am currently seeking. I am looking forward to putting your advice to work.