Roger Schank’s Post

View profile for Roger Schank

Founder and CEO at Socratic Arts

One of my employees has a son for whom school has always been a problem. He doesn't want to learn what someone else wants to teach him. He wants to learn what HE wants to learn. When he was in third grade when he started making stop-motion animation videos with his legos, and then in 5th grade he learned to use special effects in editing to make light sabers glow and lightening bolts shoot from bad guys' fingertips. He learns by watching YouTube videos and reading Internet discussion boards. Then he MUST do it himself. School considers him a loser. But is he? What if we built special curricula for kids like him? For him, we are now building The Modding Curriculum, where students can design, assemble, repair, or modify hardware products and/or visual and audio media. How would life be different if instead of forcing kids into curricula we design that they don’t care about, we created curricula for each kid that relates to their goals and interests? Sounds crazy no? We can’t let kids determine what they want to learn. I have been saying for many years that there are only three things worth learning: reasoning, communication, and human relations. These can be learned in most any context. Let the kids determine their own contexts. #learning #education #elearning

John Henao

Senior Data Engineer

2y

Sorry for what is happening. I hope that “School considers him a loser” is only a conclusion in your mind and was not expressed some how by the school. I understand your idea Mr. Roger but I disagree. First, the most of topics we learn in school are useless for our roles in society. Nevertheless, the goal of learning those topics is to develop “thinking skills” in us. For example, learning algebra at school probably could be considered as useless for a lawyer but having the skill to produce a complex algorithmic solution to a problem and execute it was the point. I hope I was able to make my point. Second, respect for authority is a value that is learnt at school and it is important. For example, I disagree with the law but, I must respect the law (despite being working on change it legally). I agree that the education system could be better, anything could be better. I deem it will be good accepting the challenge.

Dimitris Lyras

managing director at Ulysses Systems

2y

Learning needs deep interest as you have always said. The educational system only considers students with less specific interest that are easier to convince . But most importantly the notion that reasoning, communication, human relations, are the three things that are most important to learn is the basis of all this. Otherwise students with very specific interests will never be thought of as having the highest potential in education, Which is usually how it is.

Like
Reply
Philippe Davidson, Ph.D.

DEMOCRATIZING INNOVATION IN ORGANIZATIONS (book Author)

2y

The three following citations from French philosopher Michel de Montaigne (1533-1592) come to mind: 1) Even though we could be learned from the knowledge of others, at least we can only be wise from our own wisdom. 2) It is better to have a well-made head than a full one. 3) It is not a matter of making us more knowledgeable, but better learned. (the original French versions are below) 1) Quand bien nous pourrions être savants du savoir d'autrui, au moins sages ne pouvons-nous être que de notre propre sagesse. 2) Mieux vaut avoir une tête bien faite qu'une tête bien pleine. 3) Il ne s'agit pas de nous rendre plus savant mais mieux savant.

Ashish Chitale

Founder and CEO, Praesagus RTPO

2y

Roger Schank this is a brilliant post. Can you kindly share more details about the curriculum you are building? I could be globally applicable. I would be interested to learn more. Thank you

Like
Reply
Angela Rupert, MS Learning Technologies

Learning and Development Consultant | Learning Experience Designer | Senior Instructional Designer | The Learning RubrEx - Owner

2y

My son was like that and always challenging the teachers, because he was bored. As a freshman in high school he started the enrollment process to attend the University of Akron, a lot of teachers said he just wasn't ready, academically. Long story short, he is now simultaneously completing his junior year at Ohio State and Senior year at a local high school in Columbus. It hasn't always been a smooth road but he is now 2nd in his HS class.

Virendra Vishnu

Information Technology Leadership | Digital Transformation | Team, Tech & Business Automation | Pay as Use Service Expertise |

2y

Roger Schank #covid from #China has given opportunities to billions of us at #WFH as #innovationlabs and #creativity epicenter and I see a few idea at no big cost which can be implemented by adapting to the change. Why not a kid goes to his/her nearby school and access the courses of his/her choice using technology like virtual classroom, AR, VR et.al. There will not be any excuse of teacher not available with unique requirement of a student in that school, Scope of the teachers and school would become as big as school count of the city, state and beyond. If there is nothing available in the network of school for a student for his choice of learning then that student should be rewarded with new resources availability by education responsible of the area. As it is in the Maha Upnishad & Rig Veda that ‘Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam’ वसुधैव कुटुम्बकम् which is true for every learner and every student. वसुधैव कुटुम्बकम् means The world is family. Family is the first school for each child from day one. For more information on Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasudhaiva_Kutumbakam  #learning #education #elearning

Like
Reply
Joti Joseph

Director, Talent and Learning at Vontobel

2y

reminded me of the great Ken Robinson. do watch his TED talk on how schools kill creativity, if you have not seen it. I agree with the post and I have to add I have grown to appreciate what did not interest me earlier, like data, vegetables, exercise. So we have to find a way to make those critical things interesting for children too

Catherine Jacka

Future Thinking Teacher Years 7 & 8

2y

We had a presentation in a staff meeting this week about how innovative our College has been over our 110+ years of educating girls. What struck me as important, was that innovation and experimentation in learning and teaching has become more difficult as government has increased regulation and ‘testing’. Schools use to be able to create a real point of difference by offering alternate curriculum and experiences but that is becoming impossible unless schools can fully fund these options themselves.

Like
Reply
Alfie Bailey

Sales Executive

2y

I was one of these children! Although academically clever from the age of 14 onwards I simply stopped attending school. I wanted to focus on something that interested me And school just wasn’t that. It hasn’t so far catapulted me into the direction I wanted to go in but I feel for the future generation of children. I came up with an idea whilst I was at school to use the first couple of years of secondary school as a feel out for what a child has interest in and then allow them to pursue that interest full steam ahead, whilst still maintaining the core subjects at an acceptable level. The best nuclear physicist of our lifetime might be wasting away day after day drifting further and further from their point of interest because of the ‘one shoe fits all’ school system.

See more comments

To view or add a comment, sign in

Explore topics