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No way will I own an iPhone when a Treo has much more functionality. And to top it off, the iPhone is a security breech waiting to happen. If I lose my Treo or it is stolen, I can send it an SMS which wipes all memory including the 8GB SD card and locks the phone so it can't be used. All data is secured. I would be aghast if I caught one of my attorneys carrying an iPhone - is MY data on it?!?!
Here are just SOME functions a three year old Treo has that iPhone doesn't. iPhone is nothing more than media hype.
Can’t listen to Internet Radio
Can’t add memory (I have 4 $55 each 8GB SD cards iPhone has at most 8GB, YAWN!)
Can’t swap out battery (I travel *a lot* and have no use for a non-replaceable battery even if it lasts 8 hrs talk time - yeah right!) Pay Apple $100+ to replace at 18 months + the cost of the battery!
No instant messaging (I use Jabber through a secure https corporate connection)
No way to send pictures, videos, sounds (i.e. no MMS)
Can't edit or save Word, Excel, PDF documents
Camera can't record video
Can't play Web pages with Flash
No games
No way to download contacts from old phones
Can't turn contact lists into e-mail distribution lists
Can't turn iPod songs into ring tones
No way to search phone book or song lists
No quick way to move up or down pages
Not clear if there is support forMicrosoft Exchange
No VPN for secure communications
Access to a fast, 3G network (for that you'll have to wait for iPhone 2.0)
BTW, those are all the things an iPhone can't do that a Treo can. I run the Opera mobile browser that allows me to watch realtime video and turn it sideways just like the iPhone.
Had a good laugh at the colleague of Kevin Chapman that said "The iphone is for people who have fun with their phone. Its hip, trendy and coolness factor. Treo & Blackberries are for business."
Hmm, then why aren't there any games for the iPhone at launch? Blackberry's have the addictive game Brickbreaker http://www.cnbc.com/id/17277310/site/14081545/ and can add many others? Treo comes with three games and I have 50-60 others, some very leading edge graphics such as my favorite Billiard game and many of the Midway arcade classics. The Apple fan boyz always snort in derision at anything not Apple without looking at the facts. I'll be having a blast with my Treo snorting in fun at the poor souls who have an iPhone that they can't do much with.
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There was an interesting video on the iphone on MSNBC a couple days ago. You could look for that. Basically the guy said it is good, but....... all the typical issues with a new toy. The main thing was the battery life is not all it's cracked up to be and most important is you cannot remove the battery. If it goes you have to send the entire phone in for replacement of the battery.
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Kevin sums it up very nicely ... why step backwards and pay a load more, just for an admittedly slick package? And even if the thing does support exchange at some point, no actual corporate environment is going to actually let its employees use it to get corporate email with the security issues. Corporate email is one of the main uses of my PPC (an 8125 from Cingular I've had a bit under 2 years). None of the features the iPhone has are revolutionary for me. One good point: I do like the fact that the iPhone will force other cell manufacturers to offer more ergonomic devices
Another thing that the iPhone can't do that I can, and have been able to for years: use interactive maps, with GPS that give me turn by turn directions. A static map is a big deal on iPhone??? I'd rather just spend a few pennies and print a paper map out if that is the case. And as Kevin mentions, I've got video, can swap out memory, I can play loads of 3rd party games, and I can work on a PowerPoint presentation while I am riding the bus or on the plane... on short trips I no longer even carry my laptop.
Plus, I like the tactile feel of keys, and like a slide out QWERTY keyboard. When I am in a rush I can finger my screen too.
It would be a great phone for my kid and has all the limitations that fit into his use patterns, but not at 600 dollars! I can get him a new phone, a new iPod, and a load of other things for less.
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I must admit I'm tempted, but since it's first gen, EDGE and not 3G, has no support for third party apps (currently), no Flash support in the browser, no current support for Exchange or Lotus and costs way too much for what it is, I'll be holding off for a while.
Are you kidding? Who would want to use a phone that can't connect to corporate email systems like Exchange. It has poor battery life, no 3G and the list goes on.
I got the new Iphone a couple of hours ago. At first glance, I'm already free of the constant checking of emails, as they are in my hand. The display is wonderful, sound quality on the built-in speaker much better than I expected, and I get stock quotes without speaking to my annoying broker. This thing's incredible. Blackberry is cobler...
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For those interest here is a WSJ article today along w/ ATT newly avquired network
The Chosen Four
While most folks have to wait in line (and pay at least $500) to get their hands on an iPhone, four journalists got to test the device for two weeks before the official release.
Walt Mossberg says Apple's widely anticipated iPhone raises the bar for all other smart phones.
The Chosen Four: The Wall Street Journal's Walt Mossberg, David Pogue of the New York Times, USA Today's Edward Baig and Newsweek's Mr. Levy. Their initial reviews came out Wednesday and, for the most part, the four were pleased with the job that Mr. Jobs had done.
David Pogue8 had to learn to "use the force" while tapping out letters on the iPhone's virtual keyboard, but overall gives Apple its due: "As the ball player Dizzy Dean once said, 'It ain't bragging if you done it.'"
Walt Mossberg9 and Katherine Boehret said concerns about the lack of a physical keyboard "turned out in our tests to be a nonissue." After taking the iPhone to Starbucks, airports, and Fenway Park, the verdict: "Despite some flaws and feature omissions, the iPhone is, on balance, a beautiful and breakthrough handheld computer."
Edward Baig10 pointed out that the iPhone may not be for everyone: "It's pricey. It lacks certain features found on some rival devices… Your employer may prevent you from receiving corporate e-mail on the device." But he still reveres it as a "prodigy," and likes the idea of not having to schlep around with an iPod and a cellphone in your pocket.
Steven Levy11 was pleased he didn't have to crack a manual to use any of the iPhone features, and got a satisfying run of baseball scores, Neil Young concerts, YouTube videos and weather conditions before his battery ran out.
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Works With iPhone
Bluetooth headset and dock for iPhone
What would a pricey smartphone be without pricey accessories? Apple waited until launch day to unveil the first iPhone add-ons and disclose their prices. The iPhone's Bluetooth wireless headset will set you back $129. The slim, black earpiece (which was announced at Macworld in January) has a single button to make and receive calls when the iPhone is in your pocket or bag.
"But why would you want to hide away this year's must have gadget?," wonders James Sherwood at RegHardware12. "You're paranoid about having the most hyped product of the year nicked, that's why."
The basic iPhone dock costs $49 (yes, the dock is sold separately). It has a USB port for syncing with a computer and charging the device as well as an audio plug to connect to external speakers. Also, Apple is selling a $9 TTY adapter that lets the deaf plug a teletype device into their iPhone. More details on Apple's site13.
Nicholas Deleon at CrunchGear was underwhelmed with Apple's accessories, saying they aren't nearly as exciting as the iPhone proper. "They're exactly what you'd expect," he laments14.
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Scoble Tracks the Geeks
Mac addicts waiting outside the Apple store in Palo Alto have been joined by some Silicon Valley entrepreneurs and celebrities who also can't wait to get the next gadget status symbol. Tech blogger Robert Scoble arrived early, putting him at the head of the line, and he has been keeping tabs on everyone's comings and goings. "Diggnation just showed up too and so did Leah Culver, head geek behind Pownce which is the new Twitter competitor announced yesterday."
"Why did I wait in line in Palo Alto and not the more sexy San Francisco? Easy, I knew there'd be more geeks in line here. And the line did not disappoint," Mr. Scoble writes. Among those he has found: Bill Atkinson, one of Apple's first software developers. Mr. Scoble reports that Mr. Atkinson has helped linesitters pass the time by sharing old Macintosh stories.
"Also in line? The Quicken Mac Team. Zoomr. Smug Mug. Techmeme," he writes. Mr. Scoble is keeping tabs on his blog15 and posting live video16 on U.streamTV.
Well, I didn't "buy" it, but I worked one over thoroughly. It was as I expected; very good user interface (given the limitations of current touch-screen technology) but the underlying hardware is unremarkable. The deficits that struck me most are:
- lack of 3G...yeah, yeah, it's coming, I know
- the captive battery
- inadequate connectivity integration
Knowing some of the guys at Apple, these and the other minor problems will be resolved soon enough.
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Allready some big flaws are mentioned above, but as hard to believe as it is, that is not all!
The iPhone, hyped as te ultimate phone, does not enable wireless stereo headphones, as far I can see. Crazy. However, it does have Bluetooth technology in the device for voice calls and hands-free operation in the car. Seen that it has Bluetooth inside, supporting stereo for headphones, car stereos, portable speakers and home stereos should have bee simple. I do not get it...
My car comes equiped with streaming stereo Bluetooth, meaning I can stream my digital music directly to the carsystem from my Sony Ericsson phone, or my Bluestorm MP3 player. Why would I downgrade to a device who does not support this?
I know te Apple lovers will get high on this phone. But not for me thanks. It has not the basic business functions i expect from a high end phone (and why are those not in again???), and it lets me down on even the entertainment side of life as well. I am not going back to cables!
It’s official. I do not want one. Not now. Not in this version. Not in this life. So, you’ll just have to find another present for my birthday, and I just officially erased it from my Christmas wish list.
Let’s be honest. Why would someone want it? If you are looking for a nice shiny tool to make you stand out, think again. In the first days alone more than a million other bonobos will have the same exclusive phone, and there are a gazillion more on the waiting list.
Further more, it’s way too slow for me, as it is not packed with 3G, and I am dead scared with the fact that it has one horrible irreplaceable battery: I have a nasty phone bill to prove that a 5 hours talk time in a shiny Apple design will not get high into my charts. My first iPod ended locked to the power charger @ all times, but for a phone that would be unhandy.
A 2 mega-pixel camera was extremely cool in 2005, but now the cook of the driver of the gardener of my neighbour’s security guard simply refuses to be seen with anything below 3 to 4 mega-pixel. Moreover, video capturing seems not to be on the application list. Duh. I think Steve needs to slap some sloppy guy. Same guy by the way that found it not necessary to add a memory extension slot. That is like French fries without mayonnaise. Not good.
And could someone explain to me why this so-called phone of the future comes with a stripped down version of Bluetooth capability? So my sturdy German car equipped with a French Bluetooth system, is set up to receive wirelessly the thousands of songs I legally bought on Apples iTunes, except that the Apple iPhone does not support streaming audio? Come on, this is not serious.
I’m sure lots of people will like it. Well, lots of people like Paris Hilton, white socks, patchouli perfume, deep-fried fish, well-done steaks and cables.
I’m just not one of them….
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Nope... not as long as AT&T is the carrier.
Plus, I'll wait until the bugs are killed and further enhancements are made. I don't like 1st generation products.
The initial buyers of any new tech usually get the short-end of the stick. They're actually the "white rats" in this case... someone for Apple to use for final debugging of the product.
I'll wait and stick with my Treo for right now.
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I think the "early adopters''" fifteen minutes of notoriety started around five days ago, so to speak.
In some high-visibility venues, the cachet of a professional being accoutred early with such a device will far outweigh any technological limitations. It might even become fashionable to be one of the earlier complainers about it.
--I know it's hard to believe but I don't need one. Not sure I want to buy into the new DRM paradigm in any form and intend to stay analog as long as I can. I'm a born-again Luddite, made so by all of the new restrictions, hehe.
I didn't buy it, as I don't think paying a lot of money for a phone is worth it (i heard that some people are desperate to buy it for $300). I am a simple person with simple needs, if I buy a phone it has to have good features such as calling buttons to work properly and good hearing/talkign quality. Since this is a new phone, it is likely that it will have some bugs and issues which is why I don't want to be the first one to work them through.
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Just came back from a large suburban Chicago mall a few minutes ago. They had set up a queue section in the lower level that was already full of people camped out for the sale of the iPhone that starts at 6PM tonight! I hope it does all that and pays their mortgage!
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No, because its not a BlackBerry.
Bravo to Kevin for "telling it like it is" The iphone will be a huge hit, its great for the technology sector and for Apple. Its the coolest, hippest gadget for joe and jane public.
For those of us who "make a living" on our cell phones the Palm and Blackberry are more functional for what we want to do.
I really wish cell phone makers would listen to the business users, I dont care about a camera, I prefer my music on my IPOD or god forbid CD'S (remember those) I dont want sports scores nor do I want to watch a movie or commercials. My carrier has 1 international phone, priced for a bit under $300.00 and fortunatly for me it's a Blackberry.
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I showed another person the list of what it can't do and he stated his retort simply.
The iphone is for people who have fun with their phone. Its hip, trendy and coolness factor. Treo & Blackberries are for business.
No, mainly because it's linked to AT&T.
However, you are asking the wrong crowd. It's amazing after reading the comments so far that most don't get the fact that the iPhone isn't targeted mainly for them (tech geeks, computer professionals, or saavy enough people that make LinkedIn their home). Of course, the tech saavy are drawn to it, but after the people i've seen in line (i'm not in line, just observing) the iPhone is 10x than their crappy phones which barely can take a picture, let alone store photos and music like the iPhone.
Also, some I hear are using it as an iPod and a phone, which i guess makes the price a little less unreasonable.
I don't think the majority of this crowd will grab an iPhone (apple fans aside). I think you'll see alot of the average Joes (the ones you can cough up the money) getting them and - surprise - they'll be happy!
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Have a look at the video.
It seems that all of the flaws of the iPhone have already been shown. I am not going to cancel my current carrier for several hundred dollars so I can buy the best iPod ever made. That's all it is. I am a heavy data user and am disappointed that it is only using the EDGE network and not a 3G network like Sprint or Verizon. While the features are nice, the price for what you get is not that great. It's basically an iPod with a phone and some other utilities that are all first-party.
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